Organisation HERO CW

Bon ba voila, j'ai créé ce topic parce que les clans wars approchent d'après ce que je peux voir et je pense qu'il serait bien de voir comment organiser les combos des héros pour tant qu'à faire être les prochains gagnant



J'ai donc fait cette liste de tous les héros présents dans la version 6.57b de dota pour que vous me disiez lequel ou lesquelles des héros présent si dessus vous utilisez bien, comme le Pudge pour Quentin (TomateFouree) ou l' Admiral Proudmore pour moi (QuicheBrulee), etc. On pourra alors créer des combos simpa en fonction des préférences de chacun et de leurs capacités avec les héros.

Voila bon jeu et merci de répondre !!

Pour ma part j'arrive a bien joué avec le roof.

En bref ...

James = oignon = OGRE magie ((((( Multicast 99% même lvl 6))))) ou Jaina sa préféré avant normal elle a des gros seins mais l'ogre a un gro bide donc UN sein plus gro ...

Mi K = Sauce = Witch Doctor TerrorBlade Mirana = 0 donc Mi K = ??? (( Techies ? )) Rhasta mon gars ...

Kantyx = Tomate = Pudge Or Tiny = Big Pig Powwwwwwig ...

LeBlond = Banane = Heu ... pas de clan wars pour lui ... = Rikki car il est invi et avec lui tu peut pown sans rien faire ...

Quiche = Quiche = Quiche ( ça suffit !!! ) = ADMIRAL Proudmore ...

CoCo = CoConuts = CoCoBraisée = CoCoViN = On ne sait combien de pseudos ... = Treant ...

Ludo = Le BaBaR = FritesMolles = Le plus beau = ... on ne sait combien de choses bien à dire sur lui ... = Tout les heros car je suis TROP TROP TROP pas BON !!!

ok ok je vais voir sa mais il faudrait que tout le monde réponde et aussi que chaque personne mette les héros où ils ne sont pas forcement PGM avec mais d'autre où ils arrivent à frager sans trop mourir, comme sa, sa nous laissera un choix plus large pour créer des combos.... enfin espérons

Meeepo suxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ! Techie naaaaaaaaaaaab ! voila ...

Salut,

Comme a dit La Quiche, je joue préférentiellement Pudge, Tiny, Axe, Ursa, Clockwerk, Rhasta et peut-être Techies, mais uniquement en version "Combat" ! Sinon je pense être capable de jouer pas mal les autres héros, sauf Pugna, Géomancer, Darckseer et Undying ! A voir selon ce que vous en pensez.

Moi les héros que je joue pas trop mal, ce sont ceux qui peuvent se redonner de la vie, ou qui en ont plein de nature.
Huskar, Blood, Treant, tide.. Pi j'aime bien l'atropos ou l'undying aussi.
Le riki je l'ai rarement joué, je sais pas trop. Me stresse d'être aussi petit, ou c'est la couleur, peut être..
Ca me dirait bien de faire des vrais clans war, mais juste si c'est toujours aussi facile qu'hier soir ( 31 - 6 )..

Moi je suis surtout pour les Int
mes favourite heroes:

Rylai
Zeus
Puck
Akasha
Lich
Necrolyte
Ish kafel
Vol' jin
Dazzle
Destroyer

Brewmaster (vive la bière)
Lucifer
Sand King
Pit

Weaver
siren

Hi everyone!

I've just seen new replays and I also had ideas concerning interesting heroes to pick in Pick League. I really think we should think about Witch Doctor, Dazzle, Dirge and Venomancer. I've already tried the two former ones and i definitely think they are really imba. I still have to try Dirge but Venomancer has no need to be tried, it is already known he powns!
It now reamains to determine in which combination of heroes they could play a role. I have an idea but I count on you to provide me with some ideas of yours.

Tom

P.S.: To those who can't read english, I say "FUCK YOU NOOB"!

The conbination about Venomaner is pretty clear.. his ulti needs time to suck out life of an enemy.. so it means we need long stuns or big slow.. i can think that in a gank when everyone is poisoned with venom.. something like walrock ulti and slow could be pretty nice for further hitting..

witch docotor is kinda same.. i really think he could be even more imba if magnus ulti would focus every enemy on one point so his maledict can hit everyone.. this needs lot of training and timing and after maledict is up.. well.. what more you add is not really important.. Mass stun with ES.. tide ulti.. rylai ulti (with BKB!!!) every aoe spell leads to a painfull death after they already have maledict on...

Dirge is THE pusher in early and mid game.. if we want to pick this guy.. we should be aware that he wont be of any use if enemy comes to late game.. this means we should ban imba push stopper heros.. like ezalor+krobelus+queen of pain.. and i think the combination with dirge could be broodmother since she is also imba pusher.. this leads to a probably imba combination with heros we already tried.. and i mean combination of imba *early* pushers.. Dirge+Broodmother+korbelus+naga+pugna(never saw a pro gamer with him but his skill is imba for taking tower down)

Last but not least is dazzle...
hehe i tought alot about him yesterday since tom tried dazzle and in some way he works fine with every hero^^ but let us think with which hero he is just more imba in.. ahh a hero who becomes more imba the less hp e has.. and with 1 hp point he'll be the best hero if farmed well -> HUSKAR!!! his slow is also kinda imba for every hero with lot of dmgdeal in short time.. like ursa, sven for example..

Dirge+Broodmother+korbelus+naga+pugna

Pugna suuuxxxxxx !!

Bon j'ai a peu prés compris se que vous avez dit mais je ne m'exprimerais pas en anglais pour vous dire que je ne sais pas jouer durge et je n'aime pas trop venum ... Voila.

yeah it's good idea!!!

ulti venom
ulti magnus
maladic doc + stun doc
why not ro with pudge : we need hero with aoe ,we may choose pugna, axe or don(t know)
ulti warlock + slow and heal if we need

IMBA COMBOOOOO

so : venom, magnus, witch doctor, warlock, and hero with good aoe ...

max

it's true but there are tons of such combination i was just pointing out that it's important to try and play often combos like that in pubbys or GGC because in a CW we never know who gets banned or chose from enemy.. so it's better for us to be able to play with as many hero as possible i like the way you thought about it quiche:D

keep up the good work

There is just one thing i want to say I think we should try some combos with enigma. The black hole is such an imba ulti and can really change the game! And the stun is also very nice with 6 seconds(!) of stun. Not to forget the other abilities, but i could go on like this for years So lets try to play with enigma a bit more!

Hi everyone!

Today we've tried with Dany and Rusty some combos including Witch Doctor and it appeared he is kinda useless cause of his fucking channeling ultimate that can easily be disabled. So I think we can forget about him in real CW. We've tried Dirge and it revealed he is of course an imba pusher but he's somehow useless for heroes kills. Its use would depend on which strategy we decided when picking heroes: "push and fast end" or "heroes kills and dominate other team doing so".
I really think that Venomancer is very good hero and a combo with Puck would be great that way. And Rusty's idea is pretty imba with this combo! Just think about all ultimates and AoE spells, it is just crazy. And if you add Warlock to this, it is the end of the world!
That's why I come to a nice idea I put forwards: Enigma; Warlock; Venomancer; Puck; Tide (or Kunka or Magnus). It would be balanced because of one healer(Warlock), one or two carry heroes (Venomancer and Puck), one tank (Tide or else) and one pure caster (Enigma).
Tell me what you think about that!

Tom

maybe i played dirge wrong.. i think it is kinda important that the tower and his ulti are made quite in the same mooment.. but the problem is the enemys will just run away and your dmg amplify with the ulti is just useless..

witch doctor can be a chose against a team with heros not able to brake channeling spells.. (can't imagine a team no picking one but.. who knows) the main problem is actually.. that witchdoctor needs to farm his bkb and can't do anything while doing his ulti.. besides that.. tom yesterday concluded the point that witchdoctors ulti is jkust focussing on one guy till he's dead or out of range.. so it would need something like puck ulti and tidehunter ulti (just example) witch we did yesterday and won kinda easly playing in team.. against NAIX!!!!! imba pro morph!!!! and overfarmed rexxar!! against 2 int 1 str.. normally would have been impossible to win.. but because of your nice teamplay we won.. we couldn't PWN them.. we could mostly just send them home for a few seconds and push extremly hard.. so again.. we need something like a strategy which we always follow.. and a strategy that is chosen while picking the heros...

I'd like to set one really important strategy point.. and tom also does that im games often... if there is a chance to push.. or to kill enemy heros.. we should chose PUSH because it's better for the game and better for the team.

to toms post:
I'd really like to try your idea out.. i can imagine that we'd be able to settle the games end in about 25 minutes if that goes well..

We play the 2nd match vs Mg team, watch the final score, they pown easily DmA team. Go watch the replay for see their combo and item for elaborate a strategy.

add an aghanim to pugna and you will taste the difference
but without it I agree Pugna sucks

TomateFourree a écrit:Hi everyone!

That's why I come to a nice idea I put forwards: Enigma; Warlock; Venomancer; Puck; Tide (or Kunka or Magnus). It would be balanced because of one healer(Warlock), one or two carry heroes (Venomancer and Puck), one tank (Tide or else) and one pure caster (Enigma).
Tell me what you think about that!

Tom

i'm totaly agree with tom, i forgot enigma imba ulti ...wtf :p in me combo^^

indeed enigma is kinda nice.. his ulti is far better than witch doctor's(WD).. but he kinda sucks the same way because its channeling spell aswell.. and it can be stopped easly like WD... so bkb for him is a must..
and i want rusty and me to try enigma out more often... strategy's with this heros i haven't seen any.. i'll search the internet and talk to you guys tonight byebye

Hi,

We've tried in real CW the combo we've discussed about previously and I can say it's a nice one but we are maybe not skilled enough for now to play it properly. Enigma should be seen as a great farmer in the woods which provides her with lot of gold for required items like BKB and Dagger. Otherwise it's really hard to farm enough to build a nice hero for pownage. In addition to that, if we chose heroes able to handle a line against two others, like Krobelus easily does, it's even better for us.
Concerning strategy, I'd like to say that we've made great progess with chicken handling and wards putting. We have to strive carrying on like that and our efforts will produce their effect.

Good job guys!

Tom

the one who said we're not skilled enough was me indeed^^

I was looking on the situation in general and i saw that we were not complete pros with those heros we tried.. and it's difficult to combine them if we never play them well.. to add something to the combo.. venomancer is a great hero in early game.. but if not farmed well he won't be of any use in mid and late game.. his poison is strong in early while nobody has enough life to survive that so easy.. maybe we should think of another guy here that goes better for lategame than early game.. but still this combo is a earlygame and if we can keep up nice kill strikes.. we should be able to use venomancer... we will have to train that more often...

byebye
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